From - Mon Aug 30 10:46:58 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37CAC392.FFCE18F2@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:46:58 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tycdbs@aol.com Subject: Re: BDI Web Site References: <2e01290f.24f85c4a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Still questions unanswered but I think making your plane is much better than > a conversation with me. When you get back let's have a real live > conversation. Email for me when it's an involved issue is just too time > consuming. We've already had three emails and I'm still confused about what's > going on and where we are going. I still don't know what the website address > is. As for the "pictures" if you mean bead strand what I gave you originally > is what there is. I don't have the budget with me but there is as chunk of > money that is for something and I don't know what it includes. Your software > and domain page? I put in money for some software and two books. Software isn't as important as I can type commands in by hand. Programs just make it a LOT easier. But anyone else who wants to do it may want a program. If we wanted any images we might want to get a graphics package like Photoshop. Pictures referred to the bead strand and logo. When I imported the Bulletin those pictures did not convert well. I think I can fix it given more time. The original chunk of money was for was the domain name registration (getting us an easy to remember name) and web page(monthly cost times 12 months). I added a request for some software and books. That is less important. Here is the url for the BDI web page: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3542/ Copy that line and put it into Netscape to see our current page. (Email me again if you have problems) I want a name that is easier to remember. It took me ten minutes to find that address with out my bookmark file, and I know it is there! > Can you present something to the board as to what you would like to do? > Frankly, I don't much care about the website since it has an extremely > limited audience. So far, I haven't found anyone who looks at it. Perhaps we > should ask the membership if they are interested. There is no point in > spending money if they are not. There are still a good number of people who > don't have Internet capabilities or people like me who have no interest in > going on the net to read the bulletin! That said, I don't want to make > decisions based on my interests. I would like others to have input. As I have > mentioned, whatever you decide is okay as long as I have something to put > into the budget and can explain if asked. > Have fun on your vacation. All this can be dealt with later. Deena I won't be at the next board meeting. Although I can write up a more detailed description of info for you. And I could also email it to someone else as well. Maybe Connie? Someone who could explain it better? A good chunk of the membership has email addresses, and potentially could look at web pages. I think they probably would look at the webpage if it had useful info on it. Even *I* never look at it because it didn't have any useful info on it. [Plus it is hard to find, since the address is tricky to remember] And did you know that the page has had 1.4 MILLION hits to it (since june 1996)? Basically, a "hit" is each time the page has been viewed by someone. [If you view the page yourself, look at the very bottom wher it says "You are visitor -Number- since June 1996"] The number seems pretty high, so I am going to double check with Carol Bugarin. So someone must be looking at the page. Plus references to our page are listed on several comprehensive bead information pages. (that is how I found the address for our page this time) The number of people with web access is steadily increasing and computers are getting cheaper and cheaper. More and more things are being put on the web, and I think we will eventually need a page anyway. My idea in having the web site was in part an advertising tool, both for the Bead Affaire and to get new members. I work part-time at Crystal Blue and lately I noticed that more than 50% of the beaders have net access. I think it may be close to 75%. I often supply them with useful information they can look up on the web. And one of the things I like to tell newer beaders is about BDI. But the web page is very tricky for me to remember, and it didn't have useful info on it either, so I don't send people there. And I would like to see better information on the workshops we offer. I haven't signed up for one yet! In part, I like to see a picture of the project in question. (This is more necessary for some workshops than others) And perhaps a lengthier description. I only spend a small amount on classes in a year, so I choose carefully. Webpages lend themselves to showing pictures well. (although putting them on the bulletin board at meetings might be nice) And printing out a detailed list of workshops with pictures would be too costly to do as a mailing. I guess I wanted to put info on the webpage, that I have had trouble finding in the past. And I suspect at least some other people would find this info useful as well. And we could print out a copy of most of this info and place on the bulletin board at meetings. On that note: I just thought of a neat idea too. We might want to supply local bead stores with a stack of brochures on joining BDI. Either a one page blurb, or a largish card, that would tell people what we are about and how to join. It wouldn't cost much, and we might get some new members. Also, info about the bead affaire would be handy too, I get TONS of people at Crystal Blue askingme when it is several months beforehand. We might want to have cards containing that information too. (I can tell you how many times I handwrite the date and address of the Bead Affaire for people) This would be advertising, but relatively cheap advertising, since all it would cost us is printing expenses. Something to consider? I think the bottom line is that the web page isn't critical. But it could be a really nice tool if we want it to be. We can muddle along with the free page we have. I think maybe we should make a detailed budget and then propose it to the membership. If they decide to cut it, then we can easily do that. If you like I can help you explain things at the general meeting. You could focus on why it could be beneficial to us. From - Mon Aug 30 10:55:27 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37CAC58F.8E7D149A@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:55:27 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tycdbs@aol.com Subject: Re: BDI Web Site References: <2e01290f.24f85c4a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Still questions unanswered but I think making your plane is much better than > a conversation with me. When you get back let's have a real live > conversation. Email for me when it's an involved issue is just too time > consuming. We've already had three emails and I'm still confused about what's > going on and where we are going. I still don't know what the website address > is. As for the "pictures" if you mean bead strand what I gave you originally > is what there is. I don't have the budget with me but there is as chunk of > money that is for something and I don't know what it includes. Your software > and domain page? I put in money for some software and two books. Software isn't as important as I can type commands in by hand. Programs just make it a LOT easier. But anyone else who wants to do it may want a program. If we wanted any images we might want to get a graphics package like Photoshop. Pictures referred to the bead strand and logo. When I imported the Bulletin those pictures did not convert well. I think I can fix it given more time. The original chunk of money was for was the domain name registration (getting us an easy to remember name) and web page (monthly cost times 12 months). I added a request for some software and books. That is less important. Here is the url for the BDI web page: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3542/ Copy that line and put it into Netscape to see our current page. (Email me again if you have problems) I want a name that is easier to remember. It took me ten minutes to find that address with out my bookmark file, and I know it is there! > Can you present something to the board as to what you would like to do? > Frankly, I don't much care about the website since it has an extremely > limited audience. So far, I haven't found anyone who looks at it. Perhaps we > should ask the membership if they are interested. There is no point in > spending money if they are not. There are still a good number of people who > don't have Internet capabilities or people like me who have no interest in > going on the net to read the bulletin! That said, I don't want to make > decisions based on my interests. I would like others to have input. As I have > mentioned, whatever you decide is okay as long as I have something to put > into the budget and can explain if asked. > Have fun on your vacation. All this can be dealt with later. Deena I won't be at the next board meeting. Although I can write up a more detailed description of info for you. And I could also email it to someone else as well. Maybe Connie? Someone who could explain it better? A good chunk of the membership has email addresses, and potentially could look at web pages. I think they probably would look at the webpage if it had useful info on it. Even *I* never look at it because it didn't have any useful info on it. [Plus it is hard to find, since the address is tricky to remember] And did you know that the page has had 1.4 MILLION hits to it (since june 1996)? Basically, a "hit" is each time the page has been viewed by someone. [If you view the page yourself, look at the very bottom where it says "You are visitor -Number- since June 1996"] The number seems pretty high, so I am going to double check with Carol Bugarin. So someone must be looking at the page. Plus references to our page are listed on several comprehensive bead information pages. (that is how I found the address for our page this time) The number of people with web access is steadily increasing and computers are getting cheaper and cheaper. More and more things are being put on the web, and I think we will eventually need a page anyway. My idea in having the web site was in part an advertising tool, both for the Bead Affaire and to get new members. I work part-time at Crystal Blue and lately I noticed that more than 50% of the beaders have net access. I think it may be close to 75%. I often supply them with useful information they can look up on the web. And one of the things I like to tell newer beaders is about BDI. But the web page is very tricky for me to remember, and it didn't have useful info on it either, so I don't send people there. And I would like to see better information on the workshops we offer. I haven't signed up for one yet! In part, I like to see a picture of the project in question. (This is more necessary for some workshops than others) And perhaps a lengthier description. I only spend a small amount on classes in a year, so I choose carefully. Webpages lend themselves to showing pictures well. (although putting them on the bulletin board at meetings might be nice) And printing out a detailed list of workshops with pictures would be too costly to do as a mailing. I guess I wanted to put info on the webpage, that I have had trouble finding in the past. And I suspect at least some other people would find this info useful as well. And we could print out a copy of most of this info and place on the bulletin board at meetings. On that note: I just thought of a neat idea too. We might want to supply local bead stores with a stack of brochures on joining BDI. Either a one page blurb, or a largish card, that would tell people what we are about and how to join. It wouldn't cost much, and we might get some new members. Also, info about the bead affaire would be handy too, I get TONS of people at Crystal Blue asking me when it is several months beforehand. We might want to have cards containing that information too. (I can tell you how many times I hand write the date and address of the Bead Affaire for people) This would be advertising, but relatively cheap advertising, since all it would cost us is printing expenses. Something to consider? I think the bottom line is that the web page isn't critical. But it could be a really nice tool if we want it to be. We can muddle along with the free page we have. I think maybe we should make a detailed budget and then propose it to the membership. If they decide to cut it, then we can easily do that. If you like I can help you explain things at the general meeting. You could focus on why it could be beneficial to us. If you think you want to make a long distance call to talk to me, let me know and I can arrange to be available. Hope things are going well for you! -Susie From - Mon Aug 30 11:07:01 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37CAC845.831D4840@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:07:01 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laura Baldwin Subject: Re: ahah References: <199908301735.NAA11622@geskekelud.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Okay, I think the problem was that someone also told me susie@rcn.com > was your address, and I got mail back from susie@erols saying I had > mailed the wrong person, but we both assumed the problem was with the > rcn/erols end rather than my end. Aaah. Tyhta would make sense. For a minute there I was paranoid that my mail was broken. Alas, susie was taken, as erols has a larger user base than Cybercom did. Sigh. > 2) When can people run? I'm inclined to run every couple of weeks, > plus or minus depending on schedules. A persistent weekday evening > would be okay, or attempting to grab weekend days as needed will > also work. If everyone's schedules can't be accommodated (everyone > look at Tom now...) then we'll probably have to cut down to a > subset of people. Wednesdays are bad for me. I have Penumbra on alternate Wednesdays, and bead meetings once a month just to complicate things. On the first Thurday of each month I have a board meeting for my bead group, so that makes Thursdays a little trickier for me. Tuesdays I work at the bead store, so I would be able to get to a run before 7pm reliably. Other than that I am fairly flexible. > 3) Characters. The run starts some time around 1930. I'm still > waiting for Coming Full Circle to arrive, so there may be special > tweaks which will want to be added, but we can start thrashing out > basic concepts now. I'd like there to be a core group of people > who can actually be considered "investigators", with other people > being friends/relatives/school buddies/whatever with useful skills > who can be dragged into interesting situations (such as runs). I > suspect that a nine-person sized detective agency is a little > large. Not everyone gets to be the eccentric college professor. I just got this email, so I will get back to you in a week or so when I have some better ideas in mind. Boy, I am glad we noticed that I didn't get the mail. This could explain why I didn't get other mail from you as well. Eon was sure you sent the email about the Blair Witch Project to me as well. Oops. Greetings from sunny California! -Susie From - Mon Aug 30 12:00:58 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37CAD4EA.3580EB79@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:00:58 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tycdbs@aol.com Subject: Re: BDI Web Site References: <2e01290f.24f85c4a@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Still questions unanswered but I think making your plane is much better than > a conversation with me. When you get back let's have a real live > conversation. Email for me when it's an involved issue is just too time > consuming. We've already had three emails and I'm still confused about what's > going on and where we are going. I still don't know what the website address > is. As for the "pictures" if you mean bead strand what I gave you originally > is what there is. I don't have the budget with me but there is as chunk of > money that is for something and I don't know what it includes. Your software > and domain page? I put in money for some software and two books. Software isn't as important as I can type commands in by hand. Programs just make it a LOT easier. But anyone else who wants to do it may want a program. If we wanted any images we might want to get a graphics package like Photoshop. Pictures referred to the bead strand and logo. When I imported the Bulletin those pictures did not convert well. I think I can fix it given more time. The original chunk of money was for was the domain name registration (getting us an easy to remember name) and web page (monthly cost times 12 months). I added a request for some software and books. That is less important. Here is the url for the BDI web page: http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3542/ Copy that line and put it into Netscape to see our current page. (Email me again if you have problems) I want a name that is easier to remember. It took me ten minutes to find that address with out my bookmark file, and I know it is there! > Can you present something to the board as to what you would like to do? > Frankly, I don't much care about the website since it has an extremely > limited audience. So far, I haven't found anyone who looks at it. Perhaps we > should ask the membership if they are interested. There is no point in > spending money if they are not. There are still a good number of people who > don't have Internet capabilities or people like me who have no interest in > going on the net to read the bulletin! That said, I don't want to make > decisions based on my interests. I would like others to have input. As I have > mentioned, whatever you decide is okay as long as I have something to put > into the budget and can explain if asked. > Have fun on your vacation. All this can be dealt with later. Deena I won't be at the next board meeting. Although I can write up a more detailed description of info for you. And I could also email it to someone else as well. Maybe Connie? Someone who could explain it better? A good chunk of the membership has email addresses, and potentially could look at web pages. I think they probably would look at the webpage if it had useful info on it. Even *I* never look at it because it didn't have any useful info on it. [Plus it is hard to find, since the address is tricky to remember] And did you know that the page has had 1.4 MILLION hits to it (since june 1996)? Basically, a "hit" is each time the page has been viewed by someone. [If you view the page yourself, look at the very bottom where it says "You are visitor -Number- since June 1996"] The number seems pretty high, so I am going to double check with Carol Bugarin. So someone must be looking at the page. Plus references to our page are listed on several comprehensive bead information pages. (that is how I found the address for our page this time) The number of people with web access is steadily increasing and computers are getting cheaper and cheaper. More and more things are being put on the web, and I think we will eventually need a page anyway. My idea in having the web site was in part an advertising tool, both for the Bead Affaire and to get new members. I work part-time at Crystal Blue and lately I noticed that more than 50% of the beaders have net access. I think it may be close to 75%. I often supply them with useful information they can look up on the web. And one of the things I like to tell newer beaders is about BDI. But the web page is very tricky for me to remember, and it didn't have useful info on it either, so I don't send people there. And I would like to see better information on the workshops we offer. I haven't signed up for one yet! In part, I like to see a picture of the project in question. (This is more necessary for some workshops than others) And perhaps a lengthier description. I only spend a small amount on classes in a year, so I choose carefully. Webpages lend themselves to showing pictures well. (although putting them on the bulletin board at meetings might be nice) And printing out a detailed list of workshops with pictures would be too costly to do as a mailing. I guess I wanted to put info on the webpage, that I have had trouble finding in the past. And I suspect at least some other people would find this info useful as well. And we could print out a copy of most of this info and place on the bulletin board at meetings. On that note: I just thought of a neat idea too. We might want to supply local bead stores with a stack of brochures on joining BDI. Either a one page blurb, or a largish card, that would tell people what we are about and how to join. It wouldn't cost much, and we might get some new members. Also, info about the bead affaire would be handy too, I get TONS of people at Crystal Blue asking me when it is several months beforehand. We might want to have cards containing that information too. (I can tell you how many times I hand write the date and address of the Bead Affaire for people) This would be advertising, but relatively cheap advertising, since all it would cost us is printing expenses. Something to consider? I think the bottom line is that the web page isn't critical. But it could be a really nice tool if we want it to be. We can muddle along with the free page we have. I think maybe we should make a detailed budget and then propose it to the membership. If they decide to cut it, then we can easily do that. If you like I can help you explain things at the general meeting. You could focus on why it could be beneficial to us. If you think you want to make a long distance call to talk to me, let me know and I can arrange to be available. Hope things are going well for you! -Susie From - Mon Aug 30 12:01:10 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 8019 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37CAD4F6.89A527FA@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:01:10 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Laura Baldwin Subject: Re: ahah References: <199908301735.NAA11622@geskekelud.mit.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Okay, I think the problem was that someone also told me susie@rcn.com > was your address, and I got mail back from susie@erols saying I had > mailed the wrong person, but we both assumed the problem was with the > rcn/erols end rather than my end. Aaah. Tyhta would make sense. For a minute there I was paranoid that my mail was broken. Alas, susie was taken, as erols has a larger user base than Cybercom did. Sigh. > 2) When can people run? I'm inclined to run every couple of weeks, > plus or minus depending on schedules. A persistent weekday evening > would be okay, or attempting to grab weekend days as needed will > also work. If everyone's schedules can't be accommodated (everyone > look at Tom now...) then we'll probably have to cut down to a > subset of people. Wednesdays are bad for me. I have Penumbra on alternate Wednesdays, and bead meetings once a month just to complicate things. On the first Thurday of each month I have a board meeting for my bead group, so that makes Thursdays a little trickier for me. Tuesdays I work at the bead store, so I would be able to get to a run before 7pm reliably. Other than that I am fairly flexible. > 3) Characters. The run starts some time around 1930. I'm still > waiting for Coming Full Circle to arrive, so there may be special > tweaks which will want to be added, but we can start thrashing out > basic concepts now. I'd like there to be a core group of people > who can actually be considered "investigators", with other people > being friends/relatives/school buddies/whatever with useful skills > who can be dragged into interesting situations (such as runs). I > suspect that a nine-person sized detective agency is a little > large. Not everyone gets to be the eccentric college professor. I just got this email, so I will get back to you in a week or so when I have some better ideas in mind. Boy, I am glad we noticed that I didn't get the mail. This could explain why I didn't get other mail from you as well. Eon was sure you sent the email about the Blair Witch Project to me as well. Oops. Greetings from sunny California! -Susie From - Mon Aug 30 12:01:14 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 8009 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37CAD4FA.3CD4BFCC@rcn.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:01:14 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beadesigner@geocities.com Subject: Questions about BDI webpage Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have a question for you: Is the number of hits on the BDI page accurate? It says 1.4 Million since June 1996. Which but my quick estimation is an average of 1400 hits a day! Was the counter zeroed in June 1996? If so that would suggest a lot of people are looking at our web page! (I was trying to convince Deena we even need a webpage, as she thinks no-one looks at it. :-} So this is a useful piece of information) BTW, did you supply the number for the budget of the web page? If so, do you have a breakdown for it? -Susanne From - Fri Sep 10 16:59:28 1999 X-Mozilla-Status: 0001 FCC: /C|/Program Files/Netscape/Users/default/mail/Sent BCC: swillert@rcn.com Message-ID: <37D99B60.47A2600@rcn.com> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 16:59:28 -0700 From: Susie X-Mozilla-Draft-Info: internal/draft; vcard=0; receipt=0; uuencode=0; html=0; linewidth=0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tycdbs@aol.com Subject: Re: BDI References: <3757af38.250a91f5@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hi Susie, > Missed you last night but trust you are having a better time than you would > have had at a board meeting. Attached is a change in my message for the > bulletin. Please replace the paragraph with this: Probably. Although I had a very tiring last few days, drove 4.5 hours each way to see Yosemite. I think it was well worth it though. Just went to General Bead today, and spent way too much money. ;-} > Our first meeting (9/29) will find us back at the newly renovated Temple Beth > El. Come bedecked and bejeweled as we begin to say goodbye to the 20th > century and hello to the 21st. This meeting is very important. Chris > Aharonian (Chair, Finance Committee) will present the much anticipated budget > and I will explain significant issues that surfaced concerning noncompliance > with both the State and IRS regulations, concerning 501c3 nonprofit > corporations. Sounds good. Do you want to specify "past" non-compliance? (Although, I suppose someone will take it personally and feel like you are pointing fingers) Also, maybe add an encouraging statement so people don't freak? Maybe something like, While this is a very complicated issue, it is also a solvable one. Something that lets people know we do have a plan, and that their are solutions available. > Also, we have changed the next board meeting.It is Oct. 4, Monday. We have > also changed the all membership meeting in November to Mon. Nov. 15. This is > for the workshop and speaker schedule. uh-oh. I just scheduled a recurring obligation for Mondays, because I assumed board meetings would be on Thursdays. Hopefully, I can work around it. When you say the all-membership meeting, do you mean you have moved the General meeting from Nov 17th to Nov 15th? Aren't members used to having them occur on Wednesdays? And I assume we need to add addendums to the web page and Bulletin to this effect? > When do you want to send the bulletin? Let's talk when you return. I will try and get the Bulletin out as soon as I can. I will likely work on it Wed and Thursday. I get in on Tuesday night, so I can call you om Wed.